What Is Donald Trump, Newborn Birther, Trying To Hide From Us?

There was only one COLB used for posting internet images, the first time with the registration number viewable and the second time with that number redacted. The seal is clearly viewable both times. Hawaii officials have stated clearly, including once under oath in the Hawaii Senate, that the image posted on the internet is an image of the COLB issued by them in June 2007 and that the information therein regarding his place (Honolulu) and date of birth (4th August) is the same information that is in the vital records held by them. All claims that this is not a genuine document or that there was more than one have been thoroughly debunked. Polarik is a charlatan and a subject of ridicule amongst forensic community. Mario Appuzo believes Obama was born in Hawaii but that he is not eligible or other reasons. He has no cohesive argument for any of them and his theories are simply not supported by the law nor by the content of the constitution. The COLB, although obviously not the same document that was issued to Obama's parents in 1961 (not that anyone sensible has ever claimed it to be that) is a "birth certificate" as defined by the State Dept and would be legal and valid for each and every purpose, bar none, that any US citizen could ever need a birth certificate for and would be prima facie evidence in any court in USA, bar none, of his birth in USA on 4 August 1961. These are the only two things (date and place of birth)on any birth certificate that can ever have relevance to eligibility. Now, should he release all the other birth information held by Hawaii even though his eligibility is already established by the state issued birth certificate? That is a matter of opinion and there may be lots of reasons why he can't or simply won't. However to pretend that his constitutional eligibility to be President is somehow dependent on release of that further info (which is mainly just to satisfy all our curiosity), is quite simply disingenuous.

Pantload! First off, hospitals don't issue birth certificates. Hospitals issue documents re the birth details which the state records dept then uses to produce a legally valid birth certificate. Some hospitals, obviously including Jamaica Hospital additionally give parents a keepsake certificate which they can call anything they like. What a hospital chooses to title a keepsake souvenir certificate that they give to parents has no more relevance than what the family choose to call the teddy bear they bought from the hospital shop to cheer the mother up during her confinement. That keepsake souvenir posted by Trump is NOT the document that the hospital sends to the state vital records department. The document sent to the state is a completely different thing. The state then uses it to produce a state issued birth certificate (not a hospital souvenir) which the state signs and seals. The parents then get a certified copy of that state issued birth certificate. In later years the parents or the person himself can apply to the state vital record dept for more certified copies should they lose the first one or simply need more copies for some reason. Administration changes over the years and is different from state to state. The copy might be in any one of several different formats according to when you apply for it, it might be anything from a signed stamp photocopy of the 'original' to a COLB a bit like Obama's.

You're right, he knows exactly what he's doing and is several steps ahead. He didn't just fall into this last week. He's been and had it researched for some time now. They should be very nervous.